G: Yeah, could we get a little more clarity on that?
Siddhananda: Yeah.
G: What that image is for ...
Siddhananda: (closing eyes) That’s strong!
G: … in reference to?
Siddhananda: I’m kind of hearing, "Kali."
G: Okay.
Siddhananda: But, it’s very graphic. I’m just feeling it’s more of a physical nature that they are stuck on. So, let’s see what questions [they have].
Spirit: Kali, head of ego.
Siddhananda: Maybe explain more, or…
G: Oh, they want to know what that is?
Siddhananda: Let’s see (pausing). I think they are worried about it being a painful thing.
G: No, it’s not a painful thing (smiling). The representation of that is Kali cuts the heads of the demons. Whatever demon, mental spins you are in, that’s what gets cut, okay. So those are the sticking points of ego, and so that’s what gets cut, the ideations, and the false things that one is clinging to. They get cut, they get cut, they get cut ... so that one can move forward in clarity to that absolute, but there’s nothing to fear in that.
Siddhananda: I think that image is there more [because], they took it to be more of a physical pain thing.
G: Yeah, like it’s going to physically cut your head (slicing her neck).
Siddhananda: Yeah, yeah.
G: No, it’s not a physical death. It’s the death of the demonic, if you will, the demonic or the demon. They need to go in and explore the writings of… what’s it called? The Kali sutras …
Siddhananda: Oh, the one that you talked about a lot?
G: Yeah, yeah.
Siddhananda: With the different manifestations, like…
G: Yeah, yeah.
Siddhananda: Why can’t I… sometimes these things, they are there, but when you need them …
G: They are there, but it’s not popping in with the name of it right now.
Siddhananda: My gosh! I know, I can see it and feel it, but to verbalize it …
G: It’s the story of Durga and Kali … the Durga that people were praying to because the demons were overtaking the earth, the mental sphere of the earth, the mental sphere (moving hands around broadly). The gods got together, and they were calling Durga. Then Durga was fighting these demonic mental spins, if you will. We’ll just call them the mental spins and things. When Durga, when all her energies concentrate fully, it becomes Kali. So, Kali is the absolutely condensed version of going in, and working with those energies, the demons, and they cut the head of the demon, or the mental spins, so that it is no more. Okay, so, yeah, it’s releasing those mental spins.
Siddhananda: So, they are feeling then, it’s more energy, in a way.
G: (nodding) It’s energy. It’s not a physical beheading. It’s an energetic cutting of the head, of the life force from that mental spin that one is in.
Siddhananda: They like how you put that.
Spirit: Yeah, so it doesn’t necessarily mean that it would affect my body.
G: No, it doesn’t have anything to do with the body. It’s being willing to cut those mental spins. The Kali mantra is needed for that, because when Durga was cutting the head, when the … it’s very graphic. So, what happened was when she cut the head of the demon, when the blood came out, (gesturing with her hands like blood gushing from her neck) two, three more thoughts would go. Every time a drop of blood hit the earth, another thought would stream up … another thought, another thought, another thought. So, when you use the Kali mantras, what it’s showing is those different aspects of Kali, each one of them addresses something, some type of a mental spin, if you will, and cuts that, so that you can energetically go forward, and be cleared of it.
Siddhananda: They are feeling better about that. They just, I think, got caught up in a fear around it.
G: Right. There’s a lot of people, especially if you were born in India, if you are not around Bengal or around that part of India, they heard of Kali, and they think that it’s demonic or something. They don’t understand what the dark is. They don’t understand why she looked so gruesome holding this (holding up her arm in a fist the way Kali holds up a severed head). But, you've got to challenge all your fears. You have to challenge all of these things. So, it can be very fearful to one.
Siddhananda: Sure.
G: … that is not walking in a correct manner, so to speak, because Kali is there to cut out all the negatives, to address it and cut it, yeah.
Siddhananda: Yeah, so there is a bit to that. They are saying, "thank you."
G: She is time and the timeless. Yeah, and karma will catch up with you (laughing).
Siddhananda: I don’t know if it has to do with this soul.
G: Well, no, I’m just saying that karma will catch up. Time will catch up. So, better to go into cutting all of the drama out of the mental spins.
Siddhananda: Right, and walking a path of honesty, transparency and integrity is part of that.
G: Right, right. Exactly!
Siddhananda: This energy is more settled. So, should we leave it there then?
G: Yeah, we’ll leave it there. Maybe someone that’s on the other side that understands more of Kali, or the energy of Kali itself, can come and give some more wisdom to that.
Siddhananda: I know there has been others here, and I’m sure that there are more there, that can continue to guide this soul.
G: Right.
Siddhananda: All right. Namaste!
G: Namaste. Yeah, nothing to fear with Kali if you are doing it in the right way.
Siddhananda: Sure.
G: Yeah, a lot of people, they've got mistaken notions, and they think she’s black Tantra or something.
Siddhananda: Because of the black, it’s so absorbing.
G: Because of the black, they don’t understand the symbology. So, they take it in fear, and not knowing that cutting the heads is liberation, that that’s liberation. What it’s representing there is liberation.
Siddhananda: Yeah, yeah, a good thing. You can’t always say that if something appears this way that it means this or that, but it has a very potent message of liberation in all those symbols.
G: Exactly.
