Wednesday, November 11, 2015

Stay in the Self



Siddhananda: (Showing a black linga rock) Did you see it?

G: Wild card linga! (immediately bursts out laughing upon seeing the linga)

Siddhananda: There it is. That’s the only one today. Oh, sometimes they're good, sometimes we just don't know (smiling a little apprehensively).

G: You never know. It's the wild card (chuckling).

Siddhananda: I am hearing ...

Spirit: Knowledge born of God is the best knowledge. 

G: Okay  

Spirit: Yoke yourself to that, to that type of knowledge …  Non-dual knowledge.

G: Why is he saying, yoke yourself to? If you are yoked to it, then you are still in duality. 

Siddhananda: He is trying to say that more for like a seeker you know, to yoke yourself to that self, to that purity. More for as a seeker. He feels like he has entered that universal one that has no name or face. He's a potent energy that I'm feeling. He or she, I don’t know.

G: Right, whatever [gender] the spirit is. 

Siddhananda: Yeah, I don’t want to say he. I can’t say (long pause). He wants to be of help in that way.

G: Okay. 

Spirit: It's so natural. It’s the natural way of being. 

G: Well, it is when one gets to the point, but my concern, with the way that he said it, is that a lot of people read the non-dual texts, and they become mentally [engaged]with it. Then, they just regurgitate it. They have to have a path to get there. You can’t link yourself with it that way, because you just end up with regurgitated stuff ... not the actuality. So, that's my caution with that, because you can’t read non-dual texts in mind and get there. It’s like when [Jiddu] Krishnamaruti tried to get people there by thinking their way there, and you can’t. 

Siddhananda: He said that he feels like, or he/she, has broken from that, and this was more of a message for seekers of ...

Spirit: Stay in the heart. Stay in the Self.  

G: Okay. Right.

Siddhananda: It does feel like a stillness. And, what you are saying, ... of course.

G: I'll go for that, stay in the heart and stuff, because when you say to yoke with the non-dual, then they think, ... Oh, I am a co-creator with God. All I have to do is read the text, and say that I understand it, and that's good enough. But, it’s not good enough. So, that’s the caution I use with that. But, if they are saying, be in the heart, and surrender into that absolute, then, that I can go for (chuckling).

Siddhananda: He says, "wording may be wrong." That’s all that I heard is, maybe wrong wording.

G: Right, because he's got to understand, we are dealing with people that are still in mind.  If they hear what he is saying, then that’s the way it will be taken.

Siddhananda: It's understood how that could be twisted. He is saying, "I apologize for that wrong wording."

G: No apology is needed. I think the non-dual texts are great after they have had the experience. Then they can say, YES, YES, YES ... this is it! But, to read it before hand, ... then, they will try to manufacture it ... manufacture that experience.  

Siddhananda: "That wouldn’t be good until they are really in that state, or in that IS energy," he/she is saying. I don't know, that's just what he is resonating. He wants to be of help.

G: Yeah, he can help those that are questioning, "What is this I?" He can help to support those that are ready to surrender totally 

Spirit: So grateful. I am grateful for that opportunity that you have given me.

G: We welcome him. Thank you for being here. Maybe he can help the sadhu when he comes out.  He can be a little support for that one that's being burned to ash at the moment.

Siddhananda: Okay, he is fine staying now. So, maybe I will put him in the back.

G: Tell him he can go ahead and help with that other sadhu.

Siddhananda: Maybe, I can sit him over there by him [the sadhu].

G: Yeah. We can sit him over there, and he can help with him if he would like.

Siddhananda: (puts the stone on the second shelf). He sounded genuine.

G: Yeah, no, I understand.

Siddhananda: Yeah, but, I do know what you are saying how that could get twisted. Absolutely. That’s the thing. Even if it meant in the right way, the wording can be twisted and misconstrued.

G: Right, that’s what you have to hear when you are in the position of  being a teacher. You have to hear it on both levels. We understand what he is saying, but I know how they can twist it, and then, it's like ... - well, he’s saying this and he's there (in non-dual consciousness). All I have to do is read it and be yoked with it, and be together with it. - But, you can’t be together with it. You have to be absorbed into it, and cease to be. You can’t be yoked.

Siddhananda: Right, of course. Understood, not just to be connected to it, or holding it. It’s a different thing to dissolve into it, into that presence. Good. Well, that was another good thing to have come out ... [a caution] with that type of wording.

G: It’s another good pointing. You can’t be yoked with something, because that’s dualistic. A yoke carries two. You have two oxen. You're then yoked with something. Something yoked together with something else. Holding, or put together with something. You can’t do that with the non-dual. 

S: Yeah, yoked is not the end point, for sure.

G: You can be yoked with something in duality. If it's a dualistic teaching, then it would be beneficial (smiling).

Siddhananda: Yeah, I hear that, because that's all it can be is dualistic, and that’s all what it's meant to be, I guess. And, if  it's dual, then you're yoked, anyway, in the dual realm (chuckling). So, that’s good. Yeah, that’s a good pointing, as usual.

9 comments:

  1. Namaste - nice image! I feel blessed to have Guruji as a teacher because she helps to explain what non-dual statements are beneficial and which ones may not be (or need to be qualified in some way for those still in duality)...

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  2. Namaste, very clear and good to hear. Thank you for this clarity. Such deep appreciation for the wisdom. Heart is filled with gratitude. Omm.

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  3. Namaste, interesting to see Guruji zone in immediately on the words spoken and how they can bring confusion. Thank you for posting this.

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  4. Namaste, grateful for the clarity that is provided by Guruji always. OM

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  5. Namaste. Always grateful for thee wisdom and clarity that you bring, Guruji.

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  6. Namaste,
    A good message and a good caution about wording.
    Chris

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  7. Namaste- Nice message to bring in more light to what the non- dual is and what it's not..Om

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  8. Namaste,
    Very instructive exchange!
    Thank you
    _/|\_

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  9. Namaste, Shows the importance of a living Guru who can clear the confusion that a student may have. Thank you.

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